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Fox News gets it wrong

18 Dec 2004 by Ray Bradley

In a December 17th Fox News story (See full report here) Steven Milloy comments on a lecture by Lonnie Thompson at the Annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco. He uses a common ploy of truncating what Thompson said, to ensure that a quotation fits with his message. According to Milloy, Thompson said, “Any prudent person would agree that we don’t yet understand the complexities with the climate system.” But what he actually said was “Any prudent person would agree that we don’t yet understand the complexities with the climate system and, since we don’t, we should be extremely cautious in how much we ‘tweak’ the system.” (see full press release here). Such manipulations are designed so that Milloy can’t be accused of misquoting, but clearly, he completely contorts Thompson’s point. Milloy also misunderstands the science.

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How do we know that recent CO2 increases are due to human activities?

16 Dec 2004 by eric

An updated version of this post is now available.

The fact that CO2 increases in the past 150 years are due virtually entirely to human activities is so well established that one rarely sees it questioned. Yet is is quite reasonable to ask how we know this.

There are actually multiple, largely independent lines of reasoning, discussed in some detail in the IPCC TAR report, Chapter 3. One of the best illustrations of this point, however, is not given in IPCC. Indeed, it seems not all that well appreciated in the scientific community, and is worth making more widely known.

Carbon is composed of three different isotopes 14C, 13C and 12C of which 12C is the most common and 14C (used for dating purposes) is only about 1 in 1 trillion atoms. 13C is about 1% of the total.

Over the last few decades, isotope geochemists have worked together with tree rings experts to construct a time series of atmospheric 14C variations over the last 10,000 years. This work is motivated by a variety of questions, most having to do with increasing the accuracy of the radiocarbon dating method. A byproduct of this work is that we also have a very nice record of atmospheric 13C variations through time, and what we find is that at no time in the last 10,000 years are the 13C/12C ratios in the atmosphere as low as they are today. Furthermore, the 13C/12C ratios begin to decline dramatically just as the CO2 starts to increase — around 1850 AD. This is no surprise because fossil fuels have lower 13C/12C ratios than the atmosphere.

The total change is about 0.15%, which sounds very small but is actually very large relative to natural variability. Although it has proved quite challenging to do the analyses, there are a limited number of measurements of the 13C/12C ratio in ice cores. The results show that the full glacial-to-interglacial change in 13C/12C of the atmosphere — which took many thousand years — was about 0.03% 00 or about 5 times less than that observed in the last 150 years. The ice core data also agree quite well with the tree ring data where these data sets overlap.

I will put a couple of plots up when I get a chance. For those who are interested, some relevant references are: Stuiver, M., Burk, R. L. and Quay, P. D. 1984. 13C/12C ratios and the transfer of biospheric carbon to the atmosphere. J. Geophys. Res. 89, 1731�1748. for tree rings, and
Francey, R.J., Allison, C.E., Etheridge, D.M., Trudinger, C.M., Enting, I.G., Leuenberger, M., Langenfelds, R.L., Michel, E., Steele, L.P., 1999. A 1000-year high precision record of d 13Cin atmospheric CO. Tellus 51B, 170�193.

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Statistical analysis of consensus Analyse statistique du consensus

16 Dec 2004 by eric

Is there really “consensus” in the scientific community on the reality of anthropogenic climate change? As N. Oreskes points out in a recent article in Science, that is itself a question that can be addressed scientificially. Oreskes took a sampling of 928 articles on climate change, selected objectively (using the key phrase “global climate change”) from the published peer-reviewed scientific literature. Oreskes concluded that of those articles (about 75% of them) that deal with the question at all, 100% (all of them) support the consensus view that a significant fraction of recent climate change is due to human activities. Of course, there are undoubtedly some articles that have been published in the peer-reviewed literature that disagree with this position and that Oreskes’s survey missed, but the fact that her sample didn’t
Par Eric Steig (traduit par Pierre Allemand)

Y a-t-il réellement “consensus” dans la communauté scientifique sur la réalité du changement climatique anthropogénique ? Comme N. Oreskes le fait remarquer dans un récent article de Science, c’est une question qui peut être elle-même traitée scientifiquement. Oreskes a pris un échantillon de 928 articles sur le changement climatique , objectivement choisis (utilisation de la phrase clé “changement climatique”) dans la littérature scientifique relue par des pairs. Oreskes en a conclu que parmi les articles (environ 75 % du total) qui traitent de la question 100 % (tous) partagent la vue consensuelle selon laquelle une part significative du changement climatique récent est due à l’activité humaine.

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Michael Crichton’s State of Confusion II: Return of the Science

15 Dec 2004 by mike

Our first post on Crichton’s new novel “State of Fear” hits most of the key points, though there are a few more errors in the book that we hope to expand upon in future posts.

But for those of you uninterested in buying and reading the book, you can actually find a similar-minded opinion piece by Crichton criticizing climate science (and everything from SETI and the “Drake Equation” to Carl Sagan in the process) here in the public domain.

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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Greenhouse gases, Instrumental Record

Michael Crichton’s State of Confusion L’état de confusion de Michael Crichton

13 Dec 2004 by Gavin

In a departure from normal practice on this site, this post is a commentary on a piece of out-and-out fiction (unlike most of the other posts which deal with a more subtle kind). Michael Crichton’s new novel “State of Fear” is about a self-important NGO hyping the science of the global warming to further the ends of evil eco-terrorists. The inevitable conclusion of the book is that global warming is a non-problem. A lesson for our times maybe? Unfortunately, I think not.

par Gavin Schmidt (traduit par Alain Henry)

Ce message s’écarte des pratiques habituelles de ce site pour commenter une pièce de pure fiction (au contraire des autres messages qui abordent le sujet sous un angle plus subtil). Le nouveau roman de Michael Crichton, « Etat d’urgence » raconte comment une ONG encourage la recherche scientifique sur le réchauffement global pour servir les objectifs de méchants éco-terroristes. Le roman nous amène inévitablement à la conclusion que le réchauffement global est un faux problème. Une leçon pour notre époque? Malheureusement, je ne le pense pas.
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Filed Under: Arctic and Antarctic, Climate modelling, Climate Science, Greenhouse gases, Instrumental Record, Reviews

Climate Change Disinformation

11 Dec 2004 by mike

by Michael Mann and Gavin Schmidt
As highlighted in the introduction to the site, we seek to clarify the findings of scientists who study the earth’s climate, and have an informed view on the science of climate change. Additionally we will speak out where we feel that the public discourse surrounding the science is being detrimentally impacted by the shrill voices and disinformation campaigns of the “partisan think-tanks or other interested parties”.

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Welcome to RealClimate Bienvenue à RealClimate

9 Dec 2004 by group

Climate science is one of those fields where anyone, regardless of their lack of expertise or understanding, feels qualified to comment on new papers and ongoing controversies. This can be frustrating for scientists like ourselves who see agenda-driven ‘commentary’ on the Internet and in the opinion columns of newspapers crowding out careful analysis.
Les sciences du climat forment une discipline dans laquelle qui que ce soit, indépendamment de son expertise ou de sa compréhension, se sent qualifiée pour présenter ses observations sur de nouveaux articles et polémiques en cours. Ceci peut se révéler frustrant pour les scientifiques, comme nous-mêmes, qui lisont des ‘commentaires’ sur le web dictés par des préjugés politiques qui ne tiennent compte de la rigueur des observations scientifiques.

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Weren’t temperatures warmer than today during the “Medieval Warm Period”? Ne faisait-il pas plus chaud au Moyen-Age, pendant “l’Optimum climatique”, que maintenant?

8 Dec 2004 by mike

This is one of a number of popular myths regarding temperature variations in past centuries. At hemispheric or global scales, surface temperatures are believed to have followed the “Hockey Stick” pattern, characterized by a long-term cooling trend from the so-called “Medieval Warm Period” (broadly speaking, the 10th-mid 14th centuries) through the “Little Ice Age” (broadly speaking, the mid 15th-19th centuries), followed by a rapid warming during the 20th century that culminates in anomalous late 20th century warmth. The late 20th century warmth, at hemispheric or global scales, appears, from a number of recent peer-reviewed studies, to exceed the peak warmth of the “Medieval Warm Period”. Claims that global average temperatures during Medieval times were warmer than present-day are based on a number of false premises that a) confuse past evidence of drought/precipitation with temperature evidence, b) fail to disinguish regional from global-scale temperature variations, and c) use the entire “20th century” to describe “modern” conditions , fail to differentiate between relatively cool early 20th century conditions and the anomalously warm late 20th century conditions.

par Michael Mann (traduit par Thibault de Garidel)
C’est un des nombreux mythes populaires concernant les variations de température sur les siècles passés. A l’échelle globale ou hémispherique, il est admis que les températures de surface ont suivi une évolution en forme de “crosse de hockey” – (“hockey stick”), caractérisée par une longue tendance au refroidissement depuis “l’Optimum Climatique Médiéval” (grosso modo, du Xie au milieu du XIVie siècle) jusqu’au “Petit Age Glaciaire” (grosso modo du milieu du XVie au XIXie siècle), suivie d’un réchauffement rapide au XXie siècle qui culmine par les températures anormalement élevées de la fin du XXie siècle. Ces températures élevées de la fin du XXie siècle, aux échelles hémisphérique ou globale, apparaissent, d’après de nombreux travaux récents évalués par des pairs, supérieures à celles maximales de l’Optimum Médiéval.
Les assertions de températures moyennes globales plus élevées au Moyen Age que maintenant sont fondées sur un certain nombre de prémisses fausses qui (a) confondent les indicateurs de sécheresse/précipitation avec ceux de température, (b) ne font pas la différence entre des variations globales et régionales de température, et (c) utilisent tout le 20ie siecle pour définir les conditions ‘modernes’, ce qui empêche de différencier les conditions relativement fraiches du début du 20ie et celles anormalement chaudes de la fin du 20ie.

Filed Under: Climate Science, FAQ, Paleoclimate

OK, But we do know it was warmer than present 6000 years ago, don’t we? Sommes nous sûrs qu’il faisait plus chaud il y a 6000 ans ?

8 Dec 2004 by mike

This is yet another oft-repeated but problematic assertion based in this case on the mis-characterization of the so-called Mid-Holocene Climatic Optimum” or “Mid-Holocene Warm Period”. Paleoclimate experts now know that the mid-Holocene warmth centered roughly 8000 to 6000 years ago was probably restricted to high latitudes and certain seasons (summer in the Northern Hemisphere and winter in the southern hemisphere). Because much of the early paleoclimate evidence that was available (for example, fossil pollen assemblages) came from the Northern Hemisphere extratropics, and is largely reflective of summer conditions, decades ago some scientists believed that this was a time of globally warmer conditions. More abundant evidence now demonstrates, for example, that the tropical regions were cooler over much of the year.

par Michael Mann (traduit par Thibault de Garidel)

Cette assertion est très souvent répétée mais reste problématique en raison de la mauvaise caractérisation de cette période appelée ““Optimum climatique de l’Holocène moyen” ou “période chaude de l’Holocène moyen”. Les experts des paléoclimats, savent maintenant que cette phase chaude à l’Holocène (il y a approximativement 8000 à 6000 ans) était probablement limitée aux hautes latitudes et à certaines saisons (été dans l’hémisphère nord et hiver dans l’hémisphère sud). Comme la majorité des indicateurs du climat passé disponibles (comme par exemple, assemblages de pollens fossiles) provenaient des latitudes moyennes à hautes de l’hémisphère Nord, et étaient diagnostiques des condition climatiques d’été, certains scientifiques ont cru que cette période de temps était plus chaude globalement. Cependant, désormais, de nombreuses études montrent que les régions tropicales étaient plus fraîches pendant la plus grande partie de l’année.
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