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Global Cooling-Wanna Bet? Enfriamiento Global, ¿Quieres apostar?Raffreddamento Globale – scommettiamo?

8 May 2008 by Stefan

By Stefan Rahmstorf, Michael Mann, Ray Bradley, William Connolley, David Archer, and Caspar Ammann
Por Stefan Rahmstorf, Michael Mann, Ray Bradley, William Connolley, David Archer y Caspar Ammann (Traducido por Angela Carosio)

Dieser Beitrag erscheint zeitgleich auf deutsch auf KlimaLounge
Una traduzione in italiano è disponibile qui

Global cooling appears to be the “flavour of the month”. First, a rather misguided media discussion erupted on whether global warming had stopped, based on the observed temperatures of the past 8 years or so (see our post). Now, an entirely new discussion is capturing the imagination, based on a group of scientists from Germany predicting a pause in global warming last week in the journal Nature (Keenlyside et al. 2008).

Specifically, they make two forecasts for global temperature, as discussed in the last paragraphs of their paper and shown in their Figure 4 (see below). The first forecast concerns the time interval 2000-2010, while the second concerns the interval 2005-2015 (*). For these two 10-year averages, the authors make the following prediction:

“… the initialised prediction indicates a slight cooling relative to 1994-2004 conditions”

Their graph shows this: temperatures in the two forecast intervals (green points shown at 2005 and 2010) are almost the same and are both lower than observed in 1994-2004 (the end of the red line in their graph).

Fig. 4 from <em src=Keenlyside et al ’08” align = “left” width=90%/>
Figure 4 from Keenlyside et al ’08

The authors also make regional predictions, but naturally it was this global prediction that captivated most newspaper stories around the world (e.g. BBC News, Reuters, Bloomberg and so on), because of its seeming contradiction with global warming. The authors emphasise this aspect in their own media release, which was titled: Will Global Warming Take a Short Break?

That this cooling would just be a temporary blip and would change nothing about global warming goes without saying and has been amply discussed elsewhere (e.g. here). But another question has been rarely discussed: will this forecast turn out to be correct?

We think not – and we are prepared to bet serious money on this. We have double-checked with the authors: they say they really mean this as a serious forecast, not just as a methodological experiment. If the authors of the paper really believe that their forecast has a greater than 50% chance of being correct, then they should accept our offer of a bet; it should be easy money for them. If they do not accept our bet, then we must question how much faith they really have in their own forecast.

The bet we propose is very simple and concerns the specific global prediction in their Nature article. If the average temperature 2000-2010 (their first forecast) really turns out to be lower or equal to the average temperature 1994-2004 (*), we will pay them € 2500. If it turns out to be warmer, they pay us € 2500. This bet will be decided by the end of 2010. We offer the same for their second forecast: If 2005-2015 (*) turns out to be colder or equal compared to 1994-2004 (*), we will pay them € 2500 – if it turns out to be warmer, they pay us the same. The basis for the temperature comparison will be the HadCRUT3 global mean surface temperature data set used by the authors in their paper.

To be fair, the bet needs an escape clause in case a big volcano erupts or a big meteorite hits the Earth and causes cooling below the 1994-2004 level. In this eventuality, the forecast of Keenlyside et al. could not be verified any more, and the bet is off.

The bet would also need a neutral arbiter – we propose, for example, the director of the Hadley Centre, home of the data used by Keenlyside et al., or a committee of neutral colleagues. This neutral arbiter would also decide whether a volcano or meteorite impact event is large enough as to make the bet obsolete.

We will discuss the scientific reasons for our assessment here another time – first we want to hear from Keenlyside et al. whether they accept our bet. Our friendly challenge is out – we hope they will accept it in good sportsmanship.

(*) We adopt here the definition of the 10-year intervals as in their paper, which is from 1 November of the first year to 31 October of the last year. I.e.: 2000-2010 means 1 November 2000 until 31 October 2010.

Update: We have now published part 2 of this bet with our scientific arguments.

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Update: Andy Revkin has weighed in at “dot earth”.

Update 5/11/08: so has Anna Barnett at Nature’s ‘climate feedback’ blog

El enfriamiento global parece ser el sabor del mes. Primero, ha brotado una discusión descarriada en los medios de comunicación sobre si el calentamiento global se ha detenido, basándose en las temperaturas observadas en los pasados 8 años (ver nuestro correo aquí). Ahora hay una nueva discusión que está capturando la imaginación, basada en un grupo de científicos alemanes que predijeron una pausa en el calentamiento global la semana pasada en un artículo en la revista Nature (Keenlyside et al. 2008).

En dicho artículo se hacen dos pronósticos de temperaturas globales, y se discuten en los últimos párrafos y se muestran en la Figura 4 (ver abajo). El primer pronóstico se refiere a los años 2000-2010, mientras que el segundo se refiere a los años 2005-2015 (*). Los autores hacen las siguientes predicciones para estos dos intervalos promedio de diez años:

“la predicción inicial indica un leve enfriamiento con respecto a las condiciones en los años 1994-2004”

El gráfico muestra lo siguiente: Las temperaturas en los dos intervalos pronosticados (los puntos verdes muestran 2005 y 2010) son casi iguales y son ambas más bajas que las observadas en 1994-2004, correspondiente al final de la línea roja en el gráfico.

Fig. 4 from <em src=Keenlyside et al ’08” align = “left” width=90%/>
Figura 4 extraída del artículo de Keenlyside et al, 2008

Los autores también hacen pronósticos regionales, pero fue, naturalmente, el pronóstico global el que cautivó la mayoría de las historias en diarios alrededor del mundo (ej.: BBC Noticias http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/science/earth/01climate.html?_r=1&>New%20York%20Times,%20¿El Calentamiento Global, se Tomará unas Cortas Vacaciones?

No es siquiera necesario explicar que este enfriamiento es solo un pequeño parpadeo y que no cambiará nada del calentamiento global. El tema ha sido ampliamente discutido en otros sitios (ej. aquí). Pero hay una pregunta que se ha discutido poco: ¿Será correcto el pronóstico?

Nosotros pensamos que no, y estamos dispuestos a apostar una importante suma de dinero por nuestra postura. Hemos verificado dos veces con los autores: ellos insisten en que su artículo es un pronóstico serio y que no se trata de un experimento metodológico. Si los autores realmente piensan que su pronóstico tiene una chance de ser correcta mayor al 50%, entonces deberían aceptar nuestra apuesta; sería una oportunidad de ganar dinero fácil. Si no aceptan nuestra apuesta, deberíamos cuestionar, entonces, cuanta fe realmente tienen en su pronóstico.

La apuesta que proponemos es muy simple y concierne su pronóstico específico en el artículo de la revista Nature. Si la temperatura promedio de 2000-2010 (su primer pronóstico) resulta ser más baja o igual que la temperatura promedio de 1994-2004 (*), les pagaremos € 2500. Si resulta ser más alta, ellos nos pagan € 2500 a nosotros. Esta apuesta será decidida a fines del 2010. Ofrecemos lo mismo para el segundo pronóstico: si la temperatura promedio de 2005-2015(*) resulta ser más baja o igual comparando con la temperatura promedio de 1994-2004(*) les pagaremos € 2500, si resulta ser más alta, ellos nos pagan a nosotros esa cifra. Tomaremos el HADCRUT3, conjunto de datos del promedio de la temperatura de superficie global, como base para comparar las temperaturas, que es la misma base de datos utilizada por los autores en el artículo.

Para ser justos, necesitaríamos una cláusula de salvaguardia, por si un gran volcán hace erupción o si un gran meteorito golpea la tierra y causa un enfriamiento menor al del promedio de 1994-2004. En este caso, el pronóstico de Keenlyside et al. no se podría verificar y por lo tanto la apuesta sería inválida.

La apuesta también tendría que tener un árbitro neutral, proponemos, por ejemplo, el director del Hadley Centre, donde se albergan los datos utilizados por Keenlyside et al., o un comité de colegas neutrales. Dicho árbitro neutral también decidirá si una eventual explosión volcánica o un impacto de meteorito son lo suficientemente grandes para invalidar la apuesta.

Discutiremos pronto las razones científicas de nuestra evaluación, primero queremos ver si Keenlyside et al. acepta nuestra apuesta. Nuestro amigable desafío ha sido propuesto y esperamos que sea aceptado con buen espíritu deportivo.

(*) Adoptamos aquí la misma definición de intervalos de 10 años que en su artículo, que va del 1 de noviembre del primer año al 31 de octubre del último año, ej.:2000-2010 significa 1 de noviembre de 2000 hasta 31 de octubre de 2010.

Actualización: Ya hemos publicado la segunda parte de esta apuesta con nuestros argumentos científicos.

Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science

Back to the future Volver al Futuro

30 Apr 2008 by Gavin

A few weeks ago I was at a meeting in Cambridge that discussed how (or whether) paleo-climate information can reduce the known uncertainties in future climate simulations.

The uncertainties in the impacts of rising greenhouse gases on multiple systems are significant: the potential impact on ENSO or the overturning circulation in the North Atlantic, probable feedbacks on atmospheric composition (CO2, CH4, N2O, aerosols), the predictability of decadal climate change, global climate sensitivity itself, and perhaps most importantly, what will happen to ice sheets and regional rainfall in a warming climate.

The reason why paleo-climate information may be key in these cases is because all of these climate components have changed in the past. If we can understand why and how those changes occurred then, that might inform our projections of changes in the future. Unfortunately, the simplest use of the record – just going back to a point that had similar conditions to what we expect for the future – doesn’t work very well because there are no good analogs for the perturbations we are making. The world has never before seen such a rapid rise in greenhouse gases with the present-day configuration of the continents and with large amounts of polar ice. So more sophisticated approaches must be developed and this meeting was devoted to examining them.

Traducido por Angela Carosio
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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Paleoclimate

Butterflies, tornadoes and climate modelling

23 Apr 2008 by group

Ed Lorenz hiking Many of you will have seen the obituaries (MIT, NYT) for Ed Lorenz, who died a short time ago. Lorenz is most famous scientifically for discovering the exquisite sensitivity to initial conditions (i.e. chaos) in a simple model of fluid convection, which serves as an archetype for the weather prediction problem. He is most famous outside science for the ‘The Butterfly Effect’ described in his 1972 paper “Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly’s Wings in Brazil Set Off a Tornado in Texas?”. Lorenz’s contributions to both atmospheric science and the mathematics of dynamical systems were wide ranging and seminal. He also directly touched the lives of many of us here at RealClimate, and both his wisdom, and quiet personal charm will be sorely missed.

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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science

The global cooling mole La excusa del enfriamiento global

7 Mar 2008 by group

By John Fleck and William Connolley

To veterans of the Climate Wars, the old 1970s global cooling canard – “How can we believe climate scientists about global warming today when back in the 1970s they told us an ice age was imminent?” – must seem like a never-ending game of Whack-a-mole. One of us (WMC) has devoted years to whacking down the mole (see here, here and here, for example), while the other of us (JF) sees the mole pop up anew in his in box every time he quotes contemporary scientific views regarding climate change in his newspaper stories.

Una traducción está disponible aqui
Tłumaczenie na polski dostępne jest tutaj.

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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Communicating Climate, Reporting on climate, skeptics

The IPCC model simulation archive

4 Feb 2008 by Gavin

In the lead up to the 4th Assessment Report, all the main climate modelling groups (17 of them at last count) made a series of coordinated simulations for the 20th Century and various scenarios for the future. All of this output is publicly available in the PCMDI IPCC AR4 archive (now officially called the CMIP3 archive, in recognition of the two previous, though less comprehensive, collections). We’ve mentioned this archive before in passing, but we’ve never really discussed what it is, how it came to be, how it is being used and how it is (or should be) radically transforming the comparisons of model output and observational data.
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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, IPCC

Uncertainty, noise and the art of model-data comparison Incertidumbre, ruido y el arte de comparar datos y modelos

11 Jan 2008 by Gavin

Gavin Schmidt and Stefan Rahmstorf

John Tierney and Roger Pielke Jr. have recently discussed attempts to validate (or falsify) IPCC projections of global temperature change over the period 2000-2007. Others have attempted to show that last year’s numbers imply that ‘Global Warming has stopped’ or that it is ‘taking a break’ (Uli Kulke, Die Welt)). However, as most of our readers will realise, these comparisons are flawed since they basically compare long term climate change to short term weather variability.

This becomes immediately clear when looking at the following graph:
Una traducción está disponible aquí (pdf)
There is a chinese translation available here.
[Read more…] about Uncertainty, noise and the art of model-data comparison Incertidumbre, ruido y el arte de comparar datos y modelos

Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Instrumental Record

New rule for high profile papers

4 Jan 2008 by Gavin

New rule: When declaring that climate models are misleading in a high profile paper, maybe looking at some model output first would be a good idea.
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Filed Under: Arctic and Antarctic, Climate modelling, Climate Science

Tropical tropospheric trends

12 Dec 2007 by group

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!

Some old-timers will remember a series of ‘bombshell’ papers back in 2004 which were going to “knock the stuffing out” of the consensus position on climate change science (see here for example). Needless to say, nothing of the sort happened. The issue in two of those papers was whether satellite and radiosonde data were globally consistent with model simulations over the same time. Those papers claimed that they weren’t, but they did so based on a great deal of over-confidence in observational data accuracy (see here or here for how that turned out) and an insufficient appreciation of the statistics of trends over short time periods.

Well, the same authors (Douglass, Pearson and Singer, now joined by Christy) are back with a new (but necessarily more constrained) claim, but with the same over-confidence in observational accuracy and a similar lack of appreciation of short term statistics.
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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Greenhouse gases, Instrumental Record

A phenomenological sequel

27 Nov 2007 by rasmus

Grading

Does climate sensitivity depend on the cause of the change?
Can a response to a forcing wait and then bounce up after a period of inertness?
Does the existence of an 11-year time-scale prove the existence of solar forcing?
Why does the amplitude of the secular response drop when a long-term trend is added?
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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science, Paleoclimate, Sun-earth connections

The certainty of uncertainty

26 Oct 2007 by group

A paper on climate sensitivity today in Science will no doubt see a great deal of press in the next few weeks. In “Why is climate sensitivity so unpredictable?”, Gerard Roe and Marcia Baker explore the origin of the range of climate sensitivities typically cited in the literature. In particular they seek to explain the characteristic shape of the distribution of estimated climate sensitivities. This distribution includes a long tail towards values much higher than the standard 2-4.5 degrees C change in temperature (for a doubling of CO2) commonly referred to.

In essence, what Roe and Baker show is that this characteristic shape arises from the non-linear relationship between the strength of climate feedbacks (f) and the resulting temperature response (deltaT), which is proportional to 1/(1-f). They show that this places a strong constraint on our ability to determine a specific “true” value of climate sensitivity, S. These results could well be taken to suggest that climate sensitivity is so uncertain as to be effectively unknowable. This would be quite wrong.

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Filed Under: Climate modelling, Climate Science

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